Originally by: Atticus Fynch

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Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker

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And it will be replacing an old Burlington Coat Factory, I mean who is going to miss a closed down outlet store sitting empty.

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Under any normal circumstance, no one would care. But it's just too soon. It may just take a generation before this becomes a non-issue.

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Originally by: Riedle

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No, they should move the location of the Mosque complex to another area that isn't so emotionally sensitive to the MAJORITY of Americans and THIS Canadian.

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Lol, "mosque complex"? Stop imcluding the word mosque unless you're willing to call all buildings with a chapel a "church complex".

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It is a Mosque. Obama even called it a Mosque. It will have other facilities associated with it but it does contain a mosque.

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It's not a mosque. It going to contain a prayer room, so do many muslims houses. Does that mean they live in mosques?

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Obama has it right. He said they have the right to do so which is obvious to everyone that they do.
Obama decided NOT to comment on the WISDOM of building one there however.

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Finally, a factually accurate statement. Third time's a charm.

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It is not a wise thing to do especially since their stated goal is to act as an outreach centre. It is akin to building a Museum of the History of White People next to Auschwitz.
It is offensive and if they continue to refuse to relocate it it will be rightly viewed as being purposefully offensive.

They don't have to feel guilty - they SHOULD feel respectful.

If you can't get that logic then I don't know what to tell ya.

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I'd be disappointed to hear of a Museum of the History of White People anywhere, not just near Auschwitz.
For what it's worth when i heard there was to be a mosque built at ground zero i was quite ****ed off about it, i'm from the UK so even further from the US than Canada.
Then when i read about it and discovered that it wasn't going to be at ground zero at all, that it'd be 2 blocks away i started to wonder wtf all the fuss was about, idiots.
Then i learn that it's not even a ****ing mosque, it's a bloody expensive community centre with a basketball court, swimming pool and all sorts of fun stuff to do... oh, and it will have an area for prayer then you can imagine my laughter turning to disbelief.
THEN i find that the right win are trying to create an evil, terrorist, public hate-figure out of a moderate, peaceful imam and then i wonder why the **** we're on the Americans side if they're so stupid as to fall for this obvious and complete fabrication of a story drummed up by the right and the far-right in that supposed "great country".
And dont get me started on the hypocricy of it all.

Originally by: Riedle

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Originally by: ChaeDoc II

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I'm not going to play a game of edit to quote to edit to quote with you but one little funny i will pick out is this:

"Why? That's odd. Do you have an issue with, for example, Black History month?
lol
If not, why not? Hypocrite much?"

Assumption much?

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You could have just linked an avatar of a white flag being waved back and forth and saved yourself some keystrokes.

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Originally by: Darek Castigatus

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Lets not forget that over 400 of the people who died on 9/11 were muslim as well, or do the scarey brown people with the funny religion not get to make official use of a site they've already been using for over a year because their dead dont matter.

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Originally by: Riedle

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Edited by: Riedle on 25/08/2010 18:42:37

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Fine, no mosque near places where Islam has done horrible things.

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I wouldn't agree to that. I am saying, and what the majority of Americans are saying, is no to that mosque at that location. They recognize they have the right to do so, but they would prefer them not to and the more reasonable of them are asking the developers to construct it somewhere else.

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However, since we aren't hypocrites, we'll also have to hold every other religion to the same standard.

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I agree and I think, by in large, the west does.
If anything most people tip toe around the subject when it is brought up.

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For example, that means no churches allowed anywhere near a Christian or branch of Christianity has done anything that anyone might not like (including existing churches: those with redeeming architectural or historical features will be converted to a more productive use, the rest will be bulldozed and the land sold to the highest non-church bidder). What? You mean we effectively just banned churches? Awesome. It's not like they were good for anything anyway.

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Ok, a bit of a rant there...
I would support your right to protest a church being built in a location where you didn't think it appropriate.

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Oh wait, I forgot, Islam is the only religion where we don't recognize that there are different factions with different ideologies and we blame everyone for the actions of a single group.

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If you want to believe that then that is your right but I don't see how it related to this subject at all.

You find us an example of religious extremists other than radical Islamist who want to build a house a worship near where mass murder was done in their name and then we'll talk.

I can tell you that you are not likely to find a single example, but if you do I will be right there saying that while they would have a RIGHT to build it, they should be more respectful and not do so.

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Originally by: Sinister Dextor

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Originally by: baltec1

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Originally by: Intense Thinker

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Bacon rocks!!!!

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Agreed.

Now forgive me but, isn't this thing getting build 4 blocks away from ground zero and won't it be hard to find another building that you can stuff all of the things they want in? Manhatten is not exactly known for its wide open spaces.

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Yeah, they could probably do with knocking a few buildings down.

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Originally by: Intense Thinker

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Originally by: Bodrul

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Originally by: Intense Thinker

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A Muslim is an adherent of the religion of Islam. what you said makes no sense, it's like saying a Doberman isn't a dog.

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i am a Muslim, i follow the teachings of Islam,
my actions are those of my own, the way i follow islam is my actions,
a Muslim should follow the islamic teachings but that doesnt make that person Islam.
as mentioned before Christianity and so forth along with islam are faiths and not entities.
just because one person uses the title Muslim doesnt mean he is Muslim or represents other msulims

anyhow on the ground Zero mosque,
like US muslim relations arent really at a low

Iraq
Afganinistan (Creating alquida with Pakistan inteligence didnt help)
Israel
Pakistan (for decades arming a dicator)
India, (hypcoracy with the nuclear reactor deals)
Iran with the shah and so forth

sont think Faith has anything to do with the bad blood between the US and some people in the country the forign policies which it has used.

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Ok now in English plz, I can become Islam?

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